Sophie Turner’s Dramatic Mars Return…

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…and Joe Jonas’ post-Venus retrograde hangover. This title was too long so I had to shorten it, although it does contain a melancholic reminder of what an accumulation of tense and unfortunate, astrological transits can do to a relationship. I argue that the relationship wasn’t necessarily strong from the beginning, although I believe it was meant to be for them to grow through this marriage and the fact that they also became parents in the meantime. Around the time that Venus went direct in Leo, we found out that the singer Joe Jonas filed for divorce from his wife of 4 years, actress Sophie Turner. This news was rather shocking for the collective, expressing their disappointment with this celebrity brand of ‘true love’ in many TikToks. Through subsequent media updates, we also discovered some strange details about this connection: that their two children mostly lived with him while he was touring, that he was still wearing his wedding ring when news of the divorce filling broke out, that Sophie was suspected of cheating on Joe with a co-star in her latest film, that Joe has an alcoholic addiction, that Sophie is a party girl when everyone knew her as a homebody…and I felt that most of these weird bits of gossip were highly Neptunian in nature, like a cloud, changing colours every day. A Neptunian cloud that hovered over their connection from the beginning and suddenly burst under the weight of a couple of re-vising transits. You see they met when Saturn in Sagittarius was squaring Neptune, in October 2016, a year we mostly all want to forget because of the massive delusions and political disappointments that washed over the collective.

At present, the British actress, Sophie Turner is 27 years old. Already a celebrity, already a wife, already a mom. All brave achievements to have amassed before the age of 27, which is known as the drama-bringer, a year in a person’s life which can often make or brake some people (see the Club 27 story). This is the age at which the energy of the planet Mars, matures and becomes ripe. And Mars doesn’t mess around. Mars or the God of War, Ares, cuts, pierces, stampedes and destroys what it no longer wants. It claims what it desires, it does what it feels like and it cares not one bit for social norms of decorum and politeness. Sophie Turner’s Mars return is happening in her 9th house, a lucky house, also known as the seat of individual freedom in the natal chart. So she feels compelled to chase her freedom at the moment. Just that her Mars is in Pisces, conjunct her Sun and loosely conjunct her natal Saturn in Pisces. So, should we tell her what is coming towards her from next year? The dark night of the soul that a Saturn return can bring to an individual crossing the 28th, 29th and 30th years of their life? I’d rather just see her survive through this divorce, safe and sound and with the possibility to still care for and nurture her children. I know that she will successfully deal with her Saturn return, after Mars loosens the impulsive grip it holds over her life at the moment.

You will have noticed that since Joe Jonas made it public that he filed for divorce, there are some mysterious and confusing facts surrounding this relationship’s end. And it is the nature of Piscean energy – especially the one in which Sophie’s energy is shrouded – to offer us some concealment, some weirdness and some evasiveness. Get ready for some more odd facts to pop up about Sophie and Joe’s relationship until the divorce is finalized. But to clarify some of the weird information that is being ping-ponged around, like we are sitting in line at Wimbledon while scouring the media, here is my take on the astrological energies that Sophie shares with Joe. I’ll tell you what I see and make my own interpretations and you may then decide what you want to believe about these two. Just to get this out of the way, I am 100% team Sophie in this mayhem and not necessarily because I am a big fan of either of them, but mostly because the way she describes herself (and has done for years now) actually fits so well with her birth chart (unlike Joe’s side of the story). So let’s begin with Joe’s chart:

Image of Joe Jonas (left) and his natal chart (right) taken from https://astro-charts.com/persons/chart/joe-jonas/

We can see that Joe is a Sun in Leo (definitely not a homebody), Libra Ascendant (the most sociable sign I know, and I should know since this is also my Ascendant) and a Moon in Aquarius. This is someone who is very charismatic, charming, polite, an intelligent individual who has a problem with accepting his feelings, especially if they are of the negative kind. Air signs (those born with Gemini/Libra/Aquarius Suns) are notorious for trying to reason with feelings such as anger, jealousy and sadness, instead of just accepting them. Going through emotional ups and downs is normal in life and it simply makes someone human, fallible and still loveable. We see in Joe’s chart some heavy rational influences with his stellium in reasonable and control-minded Virgo (comprising of his Venus, Mercury and Mars), his brilliant Moon in Aquarius conjunct his North Node (an aspect which denotes high emotions and emotional volatility in someone’s chart but since they are in Aquarius there is a need to intellectualize his strong emotions and often project them onto others), and his Libra Ascendant. In addition, Joe has some important influences in Capricorn which is another stoic and reasonable sign (his Saturn, Neptune and Chiron), thereby contributing to his innate need to be in control and to think of himself as the rational and morally superior one in a relationship.

We also see that the seat of his joy (Jupiter) is in the motherly sign of Cancer (which falls right on top of Sophie’s lunar Ascendant), while the other watery significator in his chart (Pluto in Scorpio) resides exactly on the cusp between his first and second house (the center of a person’s self-esteem and self-worth). So we are dealing here with somebody who may exhibit self-obsessed tendencies while at the same time still feeling happy around his wife’s physical embodiment. I believe that to Joe, being around Sophie’s body made him feel and look better in the eyes of the public, although I also feel that Joe mostly had a love relationship to himself rather than with her; all this being said, I do think that he is a good father, no matter what went down in the relationship with Sophie. He has the markers of a man who cares about his offspring and wants to protect them (Jupiter in Cancer and Sun in Leo), but he may use the children indirectly to keep tabs on Sophie even after the separation (Virgo stellium).

So Joe draws his power by focusing on his sexual needs (Pluto in Scorpio) and even though the way in which Sophie looks (her Ascendant in Cancer) makes him happy (Jupiter in Cancer) and strongly impacts his public image as a father (Jupiter in nurturing Cancer on his Midheaven), he is nonetheless emotionally misunderstood by her since the ways in which they take action are diametrically opposed: his Mars in Virgo is sitting in opposition to her Mars in Pisces. Worst even is his Venus in Virgo opposing her natal Mars, leading to a hot-and-cold energy in their love life that could wear them down in the long-run.

Finally, what I would say is that his comfort zone is being himself, and being the center of attention since he has a South Node (comfort zone) in Leo conjunct his Sun, and what he needs to learn in this lifetime is how to be more of a team player, how to detach his feelings from his beliefs, and be tolerant and open-minded in love (North Node in Aquarius in the 5th house). However, I can also see here a person obsessed with being wanted by others, so it wouldn’t surprise me if the reason they are breaking up is the fact that he has a wandering eye but he is playing his Cancerian Midheaven ‘concerned father card’ to make the public like him in the wake of this divorce.

Now let’s look at Sophie’s chart:

Image of Sophie Turner (left) and her natal chart (right) taken from https://astro-charts.com/persons/chart/sophie-turner/

We notice her Sun in Pisces in the 9th house (conjunct Saturn and Mars), a Sun which is conjunct her Midheaven in Aquarius (where Joe’s North Node falls upon). An Aquarius Midheaven shows a woman with an unconventional public image, who may seem rebellious and progressive. In addition, her Cancer Ascendant falls conjunct his Jupiter, and she also has a brave and fiery Aries Moon conjunct her Venus – I take this aspect as a justification for her beautiful red hair 🙂 We also see a friendly energy between Joe’s Moon in Aquarius and her Moon in Aries, and we see as well a North Node in Libra (conjunct Joe’s Ascendant). So they met to push each other to grow outside of their comfort zones since their North Nodes are so enmeshed with their public roles; this can provoke fights and irritations and some intimate, dirty laundry which is washed in the public’s eyes.

At the same time there is a generational difference between them: she’s a Pluto in Sagittarius in the 6th house (a Gen Z), while he is a Pluto in Scorpio on the cusp between the 1st and the 2nd houses (a Millennial). There is also an opposition between her Jupiter in Capricorn in the 7th house and his Jupiter in Cancer in the 10th house. So relationally she will come across as more focused on work and her business partnerships (Capricorn), while he will come across as the grieving, involved father (Cancer). Now Sophie does suffer from a certain lack of empathy and an emotional coldness, given to her by her Saturn in Pisces conjunct her Sun. Saturn freezes and blocks her emotional world, her creativity and her capacity to love and be loved, to attain her goals in life, and to shine unproblematically. She is learning in this lifetime how to soften, to forgive, how to process feelings and to deal with emotional pain.

Sophie has to fight her negative feelings and overcome a victim-mentality in order to have success in life. She is destined to attract a lot of partners towards her, for both work and love, and she may also get married a couple of times (Jupiter in the 7th house), until she figures out how to cope emotionally with her Saturn in Pisces karma. I grew up with a mother who has this placement and since I was little, I can say my mom was emotionally blocked; she was both overwhelmed by her intense feelings and fighting against them, to gain control and not seem weak. It took me a while to understand that my feelings are valid and it’s ok to feel, because I never saw this modelled from my mother. In time, I worked together with her to forgive, heal and develop empathy. So I’m holding onto hope for Sophie’s children, who may find themselves in similar circumstances. I can see that as they develop her children may find it easier to feel emotionally close to their father rather than to her, which I can imagine is tough for a mother.

Coming back to their relationship, Joe recently had the Mercury retrograde in Virgo transit spending 3 weeks across his Virgo stellium, activating the Virgoan need to emotionally ‘clean up house’. So clearly he spent some time revising his relationship to his wife. He also might have felt ignored and unloved during the Venus retrograde in Leo which is known to attack our beauty and love energy, and this took place across 44 days and nights crossing over his Sun and South Node. I have the feeling someone from Joe’s past came back to haunt him by catering to his Ego, since both Lilith (betrayal) and Venus (love) played so heavily on his South Node during the retrograde (the karmic past, the comfort zone). Sophie on the other hand was knee-deep in her Mars return sitting in tension with all of Joe’s Leonic, dramatic energy. So as he wanted to fight and control, she felt compelled to let go and dissolve. Her water (Pisces Sun) dampened his fire, his fire (Leo Sun) boiled her water, evaporating the connection. And it seems like things might get increasingly bitter for the two of them as it was just announced that Sophie sues Joe on the grounds of wrongful detainment of her children.

These transits were the final straw in what I think was an emotionally ill-fitting connection from the beginning. I am kind of sorry these two couldn’t find a way to make things work, but as we can see from their charts emotional frost and some significant Ego issues prevented love from truly surviving in such a harsh, intimate climate. To add a humorous note to a sad ending, I always though that had she dyed her hair black and he put on more weight and grew a moustache, they would have made the perfect Morticia and Gomez Adams impersonators 🙂 Some light-hearted levity, but of course it’s never funny when two people decide to throw away what they have carefully built in years of their lives.

This post is also meant to celebrate the introduction of my new service, the Synastry report! The above analysis tends to skew towards a melancholic note, but I shall soon return with a more optimistic example of synastry that works beautifully. The synastry report is a service meant to help you check the compatibility between you and a romantic partner. If you enjoyed the above analysis and feel interested in purchasing a report for yourself, please get in touch by writing me an email. You can find more details about it on my E-Shop page, which is accessible by clicking on the tab by the same name from the website’s menu bar (above). Take care and keep loving against all odds!

With cosmic love,

Lexi

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